Comments on: Keeping track of your PDF papers with Papers http://www.astrobetter.com/keeping-track-of-your-pdf-papers-with-papers/ Tips and Tricks for Professional Astronomers Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:32:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: John http://www.astrobetter.com/keeping-track-of-your-pdf-papers-with-papers/#comment-335 John Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:12:26 +0000 http://www.astrobetter.com/?p=678#comment-335 That's great -- I played with papers a while ago, but found it frustrating that it was unable to pull metadata out of ADS (which other systems, like CiteULike, have been doing for years). If they really can fix that, I'll be sold... That’s great — I played with papers a while ago, but found it frustrating that it was unable to pull metadata out of ADS (which other systems, like CiteULike, have been doing for years). If they really can fix that, I’ll be sold…

]]> By: Jane http://www.astrobetter.com/keeping-track-of-your-pdf-papers-with-papers/#comment-316 Jane Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:34:10 +0000 http://www.astrobetter.com/?p=678#comment-316 Great discussion, everyone! I sent quick emails to Papers and ADS, raising the metadata issue and linking to this discussion. Here's a responose from the Papers developers: From: mekentosj geemail.com Subject: Re: Website feedback Date: August 6, 2009 9:24:39 AM PDT Hi Jane, Great blog post, many thanks! Indeed like one of the posters mentions the main problem is that publishers put very little metadata in their PDFs, second there's the issue of metadata in the webpages (what is what the bookmarklet uses). ADS could actually do a much better job at incorporating a lot of metadata in the html headers of their webpages, that would already picked up by Papers today (like it does from the webpages of Nature or Science for example). We do plan to add better detection of ADS identifiers in their webpages but this will take more work from our end. We'll do our best! Again, many thanks for the feedback. Enjoy Papers! Best wishes, Alex Great discussion, everyone! I sent quick emails to Papers and ADS, raising the metadata issue and linking to this discussion. Here’s a responose from the Papers developers:

From: mekentosj geemail.com
Subject: Re: Website feedback
Date: August 6, 2009 9:24:39 AM PDT

Hi Jane,
Great blog post, many thanks! Indeed like one of the posters mentions the main problem is that publishers put very little metadata in their PDFs, second there’s the issue of metadata in the webpages (what is what the bookmarklet uses). ADS could actually do a much better job at incorporating a lot of metadata in the html headers of their webpages, that would already picked up by Papers today (like it does from the webpages of Nature or Science for example).

We do plan to add better detection of ADS identifiers in their webpages but this will take more work from our end. We’ll do our best!

Again, many thanks for the feedback. Enjoy Papers!
Best wishes, Alex

]]> By: Marcos http://www.astrobetter.com/keeping-track-of-your-pdf-papers-with-papers/#comment-314 Marcos Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:15:04 +0000 http://www.astrobetter.com/?p=678#comment-314 Agreed with Marshall - you can use the bookmarklet or otherwise use the Papers built-in browser to find articles in a web interface - rather than use the built-in ADS search. Also, you don't need to memorize the weird syntax - once you type in a search term and hit return, you can then click on the blue term and pick what it is first author, what have you - and it'll fill in the [1AU] for you. Agreed with Marshall – you can use the bookmarklet or otherwise use the Papers built-in browser to find articles in a web interface – rather than use the built-in ADS search.

Also, you don’t need to memorize the weird syntax – once you type in a search term and hit return, you can then click on the blue term and pick what it is first author, what have you – and it’ll fill in the [1AU] for you.

]]> By: Jessica http://www.astrobetter.com/keeping-track-of-your-pdf-papers-with-papers/#comment-312 Jessica Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:34:34 +0000 http://www.astrobetter.com/?p=678#comment-312 FYI, mekentosj (the makers of Papers) have been very responsive about feature requests and such. One request I have seen is to improve the matching for astro-ph papers when using the "Open in Papers" feature from a browser. I use this feature all the time. My typical papers usage is: 1) surf astro-ph in the morning 2) identify any papers I want to keep permanently in my library 3) from the PDF in my browser, click Open in Papers 4) in Papers, use the match button to get all the metadata 5) by default it tries to match on the DOI, but it returns nothing... so right now I have to manually type in author names to get the match.... this is the problem that I hope is fixed in future Papers releases. FYI, mekentosj (the makers of Papers) have been very responsive about feature requests and such. One request I have seen is to improve the matching for astro-ph papers when using the “Open in Papers” feature from a browser. I use this feature all the time. My typical papers usage is:

1) surf astro-ph in the morning
2) identify any papers I want to keep permanently in my library
3) from the PDF in my browser, click Open in Papers
4) in Papers, use the match button to get all the metadata
5) by default it tries to match on the DOI, but it returns nothing… so right now I have to manually type in author names to get the match…. this is the problem that I hope is fixed in future Papers releases.

]]> By: Adam http://www.astrobetter.com/keeping-track-of-your-pdf-papers-with-papers/#comment-283 Adam Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:14:57 +0000 http://www.astrobetter.com/?p=678#comment-283 I just started using Papers and I'm rather liking it. Way better than loose PDFs! I've got my own suggestions list but it's definitely got potential. So I'm looking forward to see what you have to say about BibDesk, Kelle, before I go ahead and take the plunge into that student discount :) I just started using Papers and I’m rather liking it. Way better than loose PDFs! I’ve got my own suggestions list but it’s definitely got potential. So I’m looking forward to see what you have to say about BibDesk, Kelle, before I go ahead and take the plunge into that student discount :)

]]> By: Marshall http://www.astrobetter.com/keeping-track-of-your-pdf-papers-with-papers/#comment-258 Marshall Sat, 01 Aug 2009 07:13:09 +0000 http://www.astrobetter.com/?p=678#comment-258 You ask "ADS, Can this be fixed?" about the lack of metadata - but it's not ADS that's producing the PDFs, it's the journals. A&A has for several years already included the DOI codes which allow automatic metadata identification, and IOP Publishing is doing so on all new ApJ and AJ PDFs. (Yet another way in which they've vastly improved on U Chicago Press!) No one's yet tried to update all the old PDFs out there, though... It does take a while to move over your old library, but in my opinion it's more than worth it. I can't imagine working without Papers these days. Jane, if you prefer using the real ADS interface instead of the Papers one (which I do), there's a nice solution in the <a href="http://mekentosj.com/papers/forum15/viewtopic.php?id=10" rel="nofollow">Papers bookmarklet</a>, which gives you a web browser button "Open in Papers". Do a search in ADS, click on the paper you want and press that button to have it show up in Papers, usually with all the metadata in place. You ask “ADS, Can this be fixed?” about the lack of metadata – but it’s not ADS that’s producing the PDFs, it’s the journals. A&A has for several years already included the DOI codes which allow automatic metadata identification, and IOP Publishing is doing so on all new ApJ and AJ PDFs. (Yet another way in which they’ve vastly improved on U Chicago Press!) No one’s yet tried to update all the old PDFs out there, though…

It does take a while to move over your old library, but in my opinion it’s more than worth it. I can’t imagine working without Papers these days.

Jane, if you prefer using the real ADS interface instead of the Papers one (which I do), there’s a nice solution in the Papers bookmarklet, which gives you a web browser button “Open in Papers”. Do a search in ADS, click on the paper you want and press that button to have it show up in Papers, usually with all the metadata in place.

]]> By: Kelle http://www.astrobetter.com/keeping-track-of-your-pdf-papers-with-papers/#comment-252 Kelle Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:17:31 +0000 http://www.astrobetter.com/?p=678#comment-252 Thank you so much for writing this up! Multiple people have bugged me about how AstroBetter is lacking a post about Papers! My take so far is that Papers looks great and has enormous potential, but for the time being, I'm sticking with BibDesk. I'm working on a post right now describing why. BTW, there's a 40% discount (taking it down to $25) for undergrads and grad students. Details here: http://mekentosj.com/support/papers/students/ Thank you so much for writing this up! Multiple people have bugged me about how AstroBetter is lacking a post about Papers!

My take so far is that Papers looks great and has enormous potential, but for the time being, I’m sticking with BibDesk. I’m working on a post right now describing why.

BTW, there’s a 40% discount (taking it down to $25) for undergrads and grad students. Details here: http://mekentosj.com/support/papers/students/

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